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  • Latest Posts

    • SKendall
      P.S.  My daughter is vegan so she isn't getting ANY taurine.  Sources are breast milk. meat and fish.  Maybe that's why she's erm, a bit (bitchy) cranky.  I will have to google what other vits and supplements she's missing out on as a vegan.
    • SKendall
      EH, I am taking the NOW brand from Amazon.  Don't know the dosage.  I had knee surgery today or I would get up and take a look.  I know the Vit. B was in a therapeutic dose that I got in Mexico to promote the healing. I don't do energy drinks.  It helped my anxiety and promoted my sense of well being.  My daughter said she could sense my energy level just talking to me and it's been a long time since I could say that I've felt amazing even in my sobriety.  Definitely worth a shot, look up what a therapeutic dose is on the vit. B.
    • EraserHead
      I just read the Wikipedia page on Taurine... I knew it was in energy drinks, but had no idea of all the various effects! The effect on ApoB is particularly intriguing. Looks like a can of Red Bull has 1g. How much are you taking? And which Vit B? Do you just feel more energy?
    • SKendall
      Ne, any sugar wants more sugar - kind of like cocaine, lol.  I believe the sugar in alcohol has us chasing more and more alcohol and I think this has been covered by the experts (NS),  and not by amateurs like me.
    • Nicnak
      I know that once I'm established on bac(which I have been twice) I sleep very well and feel calmer.I think no matter what happens I will always take a certain amount of Bac just for its calming properties alone
    • Molly78
      My understanding is that there is some evidence that taurine might have anti-depressant effects according to studies in rats.  It binds to GABA-A & GABA-B receptors, so could maybe have anti-anxiety effects like baclofen - not sure there is any research on this though. I drink a can of Red Bull a day which contains both taurine & B vits.  It's promoted as an energy drink - maybe for that reason?
    • Molly78
      Alcohol actually increases release of cortisol rather than suppressing it, so you're right that the 4 am awakening with anxiety after drinking is a result of high cortisol levels. Bac doesn't elevate cortisol so you're right again that the early morning awakening after bac is annoying but less unpleasant. PS I recently came across a description of the Eraserhead film which sounds seriously creepy - please tell me your username isn't related the the Eraserhead baby.......