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Ne1    1,157
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23 minutes ago, thisperson258 said:

Ok now I am worrying about something else :P does the packaging have 'prescription medication' on the outer packaging for all to see?

...how am I going to explain that away? We often make some smalltalk so I don't know how I will answer if she questions me? 

Two things:

No, the package will not say 'prescription medication' on it. It'll say...'health product' or something like that. I can't remember. But I know my postman well, and had to sign for it in person. He never looked askance and certainly never questioned me about it. Which brings me to my second point:

Have you ever, in all the time that you've lived where you do, had the concierge question anything about anything? I mean, imagine what she sees! ha! I imagine packages shaped in male anatomy from Sex-O-Rama. And the married guy (or woman) who brings home 'friends' when the spouse is out of town. Talk about a job that needs discretion. But I digress. 

Don't worry, thisperson. It'll be okay. No stolen identity. No big revelations for your neighbors. I do remember that I got some email spam a couple of times after ordering from River Pharmacy. I called them and complained and they swore that they didn't sell email addresses, but I still don't believe them. Bottom line is that I never got spammed again. 

I can relate to your worries, though, and don't mean to make light of them. When I first started this process, I was incredibly scared of everything. For good reason! I was participating on a different forum and honestly believed that the people there were automatons generating posts for the purpose of selling something or swindling people. I mean, there's a lot of precedence for swindling people with alcoholism! And I was even more scared of ordering, and taking, overseas meds. I was able to get a script from a doctor shortly after I started baclofen, which alleviated that fear for a while. When I did have to start ordering meds online again, I was much more comfortable with it because so many of us do it. I ordered online for a couple of years and never had a problem with receiving them or taking them. 

EDIT: Sorry about the quote without response. I was having technical difficulties. :-/

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Ne1    1,157
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I wouldn't worry about it being in a different name, either. If she does notice, and she asks, I would tell her the truth. "I ordered something from an online company I don't trust." Truth. :) 

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thisperson258    6
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Well I was wondering whether to give her forewarning because since it is an apartment building she may think it was wrongly addressed to me otherwise and hold it back.

Yes I thinking sticking as close as I can to the truth is best.

Maybe just say 'I am expecting a package that is not in my name since I <insert good excuse here>'.

perhaps, as you suggest, just 'ordered using a prepay card' which would be true and less stress since I would feel better not lying to her since I know her :)

Actually I don't even need to give her a reason do I just 'Just to let you know if there is anything addressed to me in a different name I am expecting it'

I could be running a business or whatever.

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StuckinLA    989
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For me, from goldpharma, everything comes in a plain cardboard box. Only "suspicious" thing about it is the return address is from Germany. There is nothing on the packaging that suggests what is inside.

So just say you're really into German techno music or porn. Germans have the best amateur porn ;)

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Molly78    797
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Packages coming into the ULK through customs have to be labelled, so they can't just come in a plain box like Stuck's do!

I expect Goldpharma may well use "Health products" as a description, lots of overseas pharmacies do, for the benefit of the men ordering Cialis as much as to avoid customs charges.  However, as I explained in previous posts, you have to hope customs don't open your package to check, as if they find it contains meds they will impound it.  This has happened to me, but I have to say I think I was unlucky, as no one else on this forum or MWO seems to have suffered this misfortune.

So anyway.  Because of that misfortune, I now order only from pharmacies who label their packages correctly - the last one from Sunshine Pharma said Pacifen 10 mg tablets.  But you know, the label is small & barely legible unless you look closely.  I've known my postie for years, we are on first name terms, & really I don't give a shit about what he thinks about what I get in the post.   He's a nice chap who gives my dog a treat each time he delivers, & if he thinks to himself "Hmm, that Molly is ordering drugs from abroad".....well so what?  Perhaps I'm just too old to care what people think of me.

OTOH, to be fair, & to acknowledge your worries & not dismiss them @thisperson258, I wouldn't like it if work got to know about it!  And I guess your landlady (or whatever she is) might have the chance to examine your package in detail & I suppose might discuss it with your neighbours.  I think as you say you have to be honest with her about the name - you could say you are ordering for a friend whose postal deliveries are unreliable, then whatever the package is labelled it won't reflect on you!

All of us who order meds through the post have this type of dilemma in one form or another.  Just don't let it put you off.  Your long term health & wellbeing is worth any amount of subterfuge.  Ok, outright lies then.  Just don't let it put you off!

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StuckinLA    989
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7 hours ago, Molly78 said:

 However, as I explained in previous posts, you have to hope customs don't open your package to check, as if they find it contains meds they will impound it.  This has happened to me, but I have to say I think I was unlucky, as no one else on this forum or MWO seems to have suffered this misfortune.

I've had a shipment not arrive once, I think (maybe twice but I don't think so). There's a link in the goldpharma website for this, after the 14-17 day period. They expedite a replacement shipment at no charge and no questions. Just FYI

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thisperson258    6
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Well they already told me via cusomer services that it will be blank.

I just tried to brief my caretaker lady on the situation but I dont know if I got it across clearly :P. I thought I would sweeten her up with some smalltalk first which all went according to plan but just as I was delivering the 'payload' an electrician came to the front door so she was distracted! I said 'if there is parcel delivered to me and it's in someone elses name then it is still for me' she looked a bit confused but she said 'right' and the guy was walking up the stairs so I didnt have time to reiterate so I just bailed out! My fate now lies in the balance!!!!

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thisperson258    6
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Oh crap. I had the red letter in my postbox today saying they tried to deliver it but it required a signuature.

So since it has a different name then it I cant pick it up or they will ask questions wont they.

Also what has led me to further suspicion is the red card the postman put through my letterbox has my REAL name on it. How tf would they have known that? I live in a large apartment building in a large cuty so it isn't like the postman will know me by name.

Im thinking this might be a ruse to implicate me and the police would be waiting if I went to get it as why on earth would they have my real name on there?

Oh actually now I think of it it might be a letter from my dad.

But the query is still valid. If this happens again with the real item what will I do? If it gets sent back to the post office I will be too afraid to collect it for fear the police would be waiting to greet me!

At the very least they are going to be questioning why the name is different since on the slip it says that you need to bring the other persons ID. Though maybe i can ask them to deliver it again which doesnt require ID.

But the thing is I never know when the postman arrive so its most likely Id always miss them since they just come to reception and then leave I never know when they are there.

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Molly78    797
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Why on earth would the police be there to arrest you??  I thought we'd managed to convince you that it's NOT illegal for a UK citizen to buy (non-controlled) prescription drugs online from overseas pharmacies.  Otherwise tens of thousands of men would be arrested every day for buying Viagra.  I can't see that giving a false name is an arrestable offence either.

I don't know what to suggest you do about ID.  I can't remember why you used a false name to begin with.

If the package incurs customs charges, & they won't deliver til you pay, that's not a problem because you can pay online & they will deliver the next day.  If they just want a signature for the package to prove it's  been delivered, why can't your landlady  sign for it?

I don't know how you have managed to tie yourself in so many knots over something which most people on this site seem to find quite straightforward! (That's not meant unkindly, I'm sure you'll get there in the end, & it's all worth it to experience an alcohol free life).

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Baclofenman    633
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AFAIK the addressee does not have to sign for a recorded delivery parcel

I think you are reading too much into this, you are not doing anything illegal, you have a parcel to sign for - Nothing more....

Regards

 

Bacman

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Molly78    797
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10 hours ago, Baclofenman said:

 

AFAIK the addressee does not have to sign for a recorded delivery parcel

 

That's true at the point of delivery - if you have a nice postie/deliveryman they will go to a neighbour (or the landlady in this cae) & problem solved.

However @thisperson258 is correct that they ask you to bring ID to the Post Office to collect a parcel which has been returned there.  I do this quite often, but have never been asked to actually show the document!  I must have an honest face LOL.

Sometimes there is an option on the card to "leave with a neighbour"?

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Ne1    1,157
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Hey, thisperson. When I ordered online the first couple of times, I was completely twisted in knots about it. I understand. Here's the thing. You are not doing anything wrong. No one cares. I mean that. NO ONE CARES. They do not care if you use a different name. They do not care if you ordered something from India (or Germany or Vanuatu). The customs agents have SO MUCH MORE TO DO. 

The police will never, ever get involved. 

The reason I am saying these things so emphatically is because I have been where you are and I had all of that running through my head.

It was actually worse when I finally got a prescription for FOUR TIMES the FDA approved amount of baclofen. I started an argument with the pharmacist, before he even had a chance to look at my prescription. Really. I did that. I was so concerned, and so defensive, that I told him it needed to be filled. Turns out he was just trying to tell me they didn't have enough in stock and it would take a day to get it in. Before he got that out, though, I insisted he call my psychiatrist (out of state) and fill the damn thing or I would contact The Authorities. (Mind you, I didn't know then, and still don't know, who The Authorities are and why they would care.) I freaked out. I was hyperventilating in the car after I left the counter. 

Now? pfffft. No worries, mate. I've taken baclofen from all of the countries I mentioned above. I've had to sign for it. I've had to pick it up at the post office. I have a pharmacist who knows me by name and has filled more questionable stuff for me than I care to recount. (Not bragging. I've just tried a lot of things to get well. It makes me cringe.) 

But here's the bottom line: I couldn't quit drinking until I took baclofen. When I took enough baclofen, not only did I not want to drink anymore, I was HAPPY about it. I was contentedly sober. For the first time in 20+ years of trying. Three rehabs. Years in and out of AA. (Talk about humiliating. ugh. Picking up white chip after white chip.) 

Not everyone's got it like I had it. Not everyone has the terrible experiences I've had trying to get sober, or the amazing experiences I've had since getting sober with the help of baclofen. But it's worth a shot. So hang in there. Keep posting. We're here. We'll help talk you down off the edge. And support you when you start. It's scary. But it can definitely be worth overcoming your fear. 

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Tome    0
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I'm a newbie in Australia and have just bought some Baclofen on-line.  It was manufactured in India by a company called Roussel Laboratories Private Limited.  Has anyone had any experience with the drugs produced by this company?

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Baclofenman    633
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14 hours ago, Tome said:

I'm a newbie in Australia and have just bought some Baclofen on-line.  It was manufactured in India by a company called Roussel Laboratories Private Limited.  Has anyone had any experience with the drugs produced by this company?

Hi Tome - Welcome to the Forum

I cannot find much information on Roussel Laboratories Private Limited, especially not regarding the quality of their product, which is I guess is what you are after - I guess they are just another purveyor of generic Baclofen based in India

Maybe you might want to register a progress thread in the "You will need register or log in to read this content" section?

Regards

 

Bacman

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Felina    397
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14 hours ago, Tome said:

I'm a newbie in Australia and have just bought some Baclofen on-line.  It was manufactured in India by a company called Roussel Laboratories Private Limited.  Has anyone had any experience with the drugs produced by this company?

Hi Tome and welcome! May I ask what online pharmacy you bought this baclofen from?

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Molly78    797
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Hi Tome.   It looks to me as though the company is a distributer of drugs rather than a manufacturer, although as Bacman said there isn't much info on them out there.  If that is the case, then your bac was made elsewhere & is probably one of the many brands available eg Lobac, Lioresal  The brand I buy is Pacifen, which is made by Mylan in NZ  according to the label, whichever online pharmacy I buy it from.

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Greg    8
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Hi, I posted this question in General Discussion before realising this section existed.

Can someone please tell me if there are still any RELIABLE online pharmacies that accept MasterCard or Visa credit cards?  I formerly used Inhouse and Goldpharma but both of these now no longer accept these credit cards, and their new procedures for ordering seem complex and hard to follow, especially trying to set up Bitcoin payments.  A pharmacy that has a wide range of products would be preferred as I am not just considering ordering baclofen.  By the way I am in Australia so a pharmacy that delivers here is needed.

Thanks, Greg.

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Molly78    797
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I've been using Sunshine Pharma for the past year - they take Visa & so far have been very reliable.

Not sure if they have an outlet on your side of the world.

I also used to use Inhouse, & I have managed to pay by OrbitRemit, which initially I dismissed as too fiddly.  It does work - but like you I prefer credit card.  I have also paid another pharmacy by Western Union, which is reasonably straightforward & can be done online, but they then stopped using this method & wanted only American Express or bank transfer - international bank transfers are really complicated, involving lots of bank numbers & codes, so I just gave up on them.

Sorry can't be more help.

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Greg    8
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Thanks Molly, you have actually been a lot of help.  I will check out Sunshine Pharma.

If you find OrbitRemit and international bank transfers to be fiddly, don't ever bother to try and set up Bitcoin payments - you need a computer science degree just to understand it!!

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Molly78    797
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Here's another pharmacy that has baclofen & takes Visa.  I'm still using Sunshinepharmauk for bac, but needed to buy quetiapine for sleep which Sunshine does not have.

Quite a number of pharmacies gone offline eg Mydrugsbasket which was one of the recommended ones on this site.  When you search that one you get a recommendation for this one plus a couple of others I didn't try.  Not received my order yet but will keep you posted.

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Molly78    797
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They delivered - only took 5 days expedited delivery (expensive).

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Tim T    3
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Here's a GOOD one: www.extrapharmacy.ru

I REALLY had my doubts! But I ordered a small batch of baclofen as a trial. Got it in about 18 days, no problems. Did a second small batch, also two weeks, no problem. Packaging could make it through WWIII and probably also through WWIV, a flood, a hurricane and a wildfire.

You can find baclofen on the website by searching or by looking under "anticonvulsants".

One potential small problem is that these are 25 mg (yes, twenty FIVE milligram) tablets. They are really tiny and hard to split accurately. For a person that has titrated up, this is no problem as 75mg a day would be these at 1x/8hr. But if you are just starting, 25mg is a HOT dose! It is easy, however, to make a "suspension" of the stuff with ground up tablets (Google "preparing baclofen suspension"). I can provide details on how to make a suspension, too, if anyone is interested. With a suspension, you could increment by any amount, even pointlessly small amounts like 1mg. 

One ODD thing I found was that it is actually not bad to pay by Western Union or MoneyGram. Here's the deal: Extrapharmacy offers 10% discount on your total bill when you pay by one of these money transfer outfits. Also, they offer free shipping on orders over $100 (regardless of payment method), Anyhow, they charge $18 for 50x 25mg tablets, so six packs works out to be $108 with no shipping charges. Now with the discount (I think it rounds up to $11), Western Union (from an in-person location like a gas station or grocery store) is $15, so with the discount, the NET cost for using the money transfer is $4 and order total plus transfer fee is $112. This is great if you are a lush like me and don't even have a proper credit card!

It's worth noting that the cheapest US (prescription required) internet pharmacy charges $0.18 for 10mg tablets. A "six pack" from Extrapharmacy.ru is 6x50tabsx25mg = 7500 mg, which equals 750 10mg tabs. That comes out to the equivalent of FIFTEEN CENTS per 10 MG TABLET! Yeah, even with the transfer fee, it is cheaper than the cheapest bargain price prescription pharmacies.

 

The money transfer process is painless, it WORKS, it is quick, and it is probably a lot safer and more discreet than credit cards or PayPal (they take PayPal for over $100, but PayPal is so obsessed with people ordering anything "naughty" that I wouldn't be surprised if they were to stop a payment, cause a hassle, etc). Plus, there is no discount for paypal, so on a "six-pack" order, Western Union actually costs a total of $4 (as outlined above). (MoneyGram is even cheaper and I think Western Union online via a bank account is quite a bit cheaper, but takes a few days).

 

Anyways, I was paranoid as heck about this whole process, but it worked perfectly. I could post a detailed thread about using the money transfer outfits, and/or about how to make and use a liquid baclofen suspension, etc. if anyone is interested. (FWIW I am a chemist).

 

God bless,

Will follow the thread.

Tim

 

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Nicnak    408
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I'm in the uk so delivery times might differ but I ordered from Goldpharma on Monday and received them on Saturday and the tablets come in a really handy shape that allows easy snapping into 4.

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Molly78    797
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I have used Western Union as well - you can make payments online, it's really easy.  But the pharmacies I currently use take Visa which is even easier! 

I'm still ordering 10 mg tabs for ease of titration up & down, but others on here have recommended a tablet cutter if you want to buy the higher doses.

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Tim T    3
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Molly78

Want to make sure I didn't mislead you or anyone else. I would guess that most "Western" manufactured tablets would split just fine and splitting 20's or 25's is certainly a fine way to go. If you can save decent money and get splittable tablets, I wouldn't hesitate. (I've used pill splitters for more mundane medicines and a good one - we're talking $5 here - can do a remarkably good job).

My comment on trouble with splitting and making a suspension as an alternative pertained to the specific tablets I am dealing with, they are "PolPharma" brand from Poland (which I think is probably one of the most common brands in the old "Eastern Bloc"). I have no doubt that they are legitimate, it's just that the mfg isn't what we normally expect from "Western" sources (tiny, nondescript tablets, small-no-frills bottle and package, etc). THESE little devils are hard to split!

But after all my paranoia and hesitation, I am so happy having found a good source at a good price and so forth, that I really didn't want to go casting about for other sources, etc. Also, even with splittable tabs, a person may want to make small dose adjustments without the added complexity of having a bunch of tens on hand, too. So in cases like this, the suspension may be a handy trick to have in the bag.

Tim

 

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Felina    397
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Hi @Tim T,

Holy crap, that site is cheap! And free shipping to boot. Thanks for sharing!

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12154868    0
12154868

Hey guys,

I was about to make an order to the UK for bac on inhouse but when I got to last page of checkout they mention this vat tax where you have to go into the post office and pick it up and pay the customs fee.

I emailed sunshine asking if that is the same with them and they said it is only on a spot check basis.

I would rather not have to go into a post office to pick things up. So does it happen often that you have to pay this tax and do you indeed have to actually go into the office rather than your local posty taking it? I read back in this thread that molly has had to do this and/or someone else and things were delayed by an additional 2 weeks on top of the intitial 2 weeks delivery or so.

I would have ordered from goldpharma however having signed up with another account (I didn't have acc details saved from when I purchased a while ago) they are now asking for ID validation as a mandatory step which is a dealbreaker. I don't give out my ID at the best of times let alone to a shady internet pharmacy. Maybe they won't do anything with it but still I would never want that hanging around on their servers.

So interested in clarification on that customs stuff. I have ordered nootropics and herbal plant supplements from USA several times and they had their contents labelled on the outside and I didn't have to pay any additional tax/customs on it. Is it different rules for the US vs these other places where these online pharmas are sending from (ie vanuatu and hong kong which sunshine said) or did would my other US purchases also be subject but it is indeed on a random basis if they notice?

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Baclofenman    633
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@12154868

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Yes, you are supposed to pay VAT on items over £15.01. In my experience most mark the parcels as "herbal" or "vitamins" or the like. Postie is supposed to collect your VAT, based on the consignment value declared by the sender (usually peanuts)

In reality, Yup Mols had a small issue, I had none while I was importing (it is not illegal btw). 

Personally I dont see what the problem is, presumably you give them your card details and address. So if you have to go to the post office with ID (they dont know whats in the parcel), its no biggie?

Where in the UK are you? Your flag says USA? Where are you on your journey with Baclofen?

Regards,

 

 

Bacman

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