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Hello! Does Bac interfere with Naltrexone? I'm making the transition. Does anyone have any experience? Is anyone on Naltrexone? 

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Molly78

I am on bac, not tried naltrexone.  However they work in entirely different ways, so should complement each other ie the bac will reduce cravings & anxiety, whereas the nal will reduce the "high" you get from alcohol.  Mind you, bac does that as well.  Any particular reason you are making the change over?  Did bac not work for you?

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Alcofree
3 hours ago, Molly78 said:

I am on bac, not tried naltrexone.  However they work in entirely different ways, so should complement each other ie the bac will reduce cravings & anxiety, whereas the nal will reduce the "high" you get from alcohol.  Mind you, bac does that as well.  Any particular reason you are making the change over?  Did bac not work for you?

@Molly78 I want to get Nal on prescription. Will know the outcome later this week. I will feel better if I'm under full medical supervision. Bac is good.But I take other meds so always weary what works alongside Bac and what doesn't. Fingers crossed I'll get a chance to try Nal.

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empyr3al

Naltrexone is quite expensive at 8 CAD a day but so is baclofen at high dose. If you are paying outright cross borders then nal is cheaper on a benefit plan.  I suppose how you use Naltrexone can bring the price down. The Sinclair Method for one. 250$ if used daily unless you have benefits.  I have roughly 1500$ in nal for a multitude of reasons such as relapsing, concern for my liver, I started using it on demand.  Bac is not liver based so if you have concerns for your liver its not a wise choice.  Just my two cents.  Nal is not made out to be what it is used for and can cause some damage and proves little success.  Especially if you are injured and need opiods because it blows the safe limit of opiods out of the water.  Its patented so its a money maker. If you live in the states its substancially cheaper if you shop around.

Being british it will cost a fortune.  But so does my campral and just slightly less. 340 for two months.  Mirtazapine is by far the cheapest option. 14$ for 180.

As an example I use roughly 25$ in drugs for AL alone.

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@Alcofree

I see no harm in combining them.  I do.  Actually I combine NAL, Campral, Gabapentin and Mirtazapine.  The concept that one pill or changing from one to another doesn't fit in my books.  Now if BAC is causing problems, maybe try a combo of NAL and Gabapentin.  Gabapentine does quite a bit of similar things to BAC as far as I can tell, but without the aka switch.  I believe you can use more than one if your body can take it.  The Nal I started using less because its hard on the liver and my last test frightened me.  I used to use it daily and now I use it when I feel like it or need it.  Its in my daily "tray" for first thing in the morning so as I carry the individual day (nice tray), I can take it if I need it as its always with me.  Just a tip.

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On 15/10/2017 at 11:08 PM, Alcofree said:

@Molly78 I want to get Nal on prescription. Will know the outcome later this week. I will feel better if I'm under full medical supervision. Bac is good.But I take other meds so always weary what works alongside Bac and what doesn't. Fingers crossed I'll get a chance to try Nal.

@Molly78 I managed to get Naltrexone on prescription. Very happy. It's not addictive. The Sinclair Method definitely works. I wish I knew about it earlier! I am much more comfortable on Nal. 

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Initia Nova

I frequently prescribe both naltrexone and baclofen to my patients. Naltrexone I use in The Sinclair Method (if liver function ok) and not on opiates, and then add  baclofen. Good results 

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Barbara A.

Hello, Alcofree, I'm wondering if TSM is working for you? Are you on both Baclofen and Naltrexone? My daughter is on both, using Nal by TSM, instead of daily. Would be interested in your experience. I'm wondering if Bac works against Nal. Since Bac reduces cravings, and drinking with Nal brings about pharmacological extinction, does Bac slow down the process? Please anyone else reading this please reply as I'm interested in knowing about your experience. My daughter started out taking Baclofen. She doesn't drink daily, but binges on occasion. On Bac she has gotten drunk on two occasions since beginning it last October. She did not take the Nal then. When she has taken the Nal with alcohol (about 4 times), it has worked fine. Her goal is to only drink occasionally socially so she hasn't really taken much Nal. When we heard about TSM she was already on Bac and her goal was abstinence so she never had the opportunity to keep drinking as usual as recommended by TSM. After learning about TSM and it's reported "cure" in 78% of people, I'm wondering why everyone on this forum is not trying TSM first to see if it works? Would like to hear your thoughts about this. Also, we are not sure if she wanted to do TSM now how she would go about it. If your totally abstinent I know it is not recommended to start drinking, but she isn't totally abstinent and wants to be able to drink on occasion. Your thoughts?

 

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Initia Nova

Baclofen does not interfere with effectiveness of naltrexone. If still drinking on occasion I would recommend using nal in TSM on every occasion that she drinks. Hope this helps

 

 

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