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Nicnak

So,I’m completly off bac now due to unbearable constipation.Drinking 1 to 1.5 bottles of wine a day.But I’m stil not giving in to this,will try naltrexone again after Christmas 

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Otter

Apparently the petition at Baclohelp garnered 9000 signatures, but the French medical safety association refused to reverse its stand and there is a court case lined up for 26 November...  

@Molly78  I'd be more enthusiastic if I actually believed that this would help with the "cause" of HDB.  It may help in France, but, elsewhere, there seems to me to be an impenetrable wall between the public and baclofen treatment.  I haven't seen any reporting of baclofen treatment outside France for years.  It reminds me of the "killer bee" which was making its way from Mexico and would soon be killing millions people. By the time it got to the American border, it had bred with less potent bees and was no longer a killer.  Baclofen really took off here because it was new and it worked for many people.   I thought that it would take over as a treatment for alcoholism and gain approval but, instead, it's stalled.  Some got better, and left, some didn't, and left.  Some didn't get better, stayed, and made a lot of noise.  Others put forward different approaches.  Some want to adopt an approach which is "catholic" in its approach to medical treatment, ie., all drugs are welcome.  Then there is the lack of support from the medical community, politicians, the press...  I feel that my efforts to push this treatment forward are like throwing pebbles into the Pacific Ocean.   There is a profound lack of interest in the plight of alcoholics and their families and worse, almost derision from some.  

My wife had surgery a week ago Saturday and is slowly recovering. She's in bed all bandaged up and in a lot of pain.   I am recovering from what we think was a bout of the "shingles" which I understand to be the re-emergence of a dormant chicken-pox virus. My face looked like a maggot infested lump of boiled ham for about three weeks.  I think the sun triggered it, along with the stress. I felt very depressed and lacking in energy as well and I'm starting to feel better now my skin is clearing up.   I'm now playing nurse to my wife, again, and the five dogs and our son.  

Not sure where this is all going.  Having retired 6 years ago, I'm starting to feel an urgency about doing something productive. I've got some issues here to sort out and a business project I'm working on.  Hmmm....  I keep coming back to "alcoholism".   We're here, one way or another, as a direct consequence of this illness.  It casts a very long shadow even after you are off it and well into recovery.  It's like being a refugee but what you are escaping from is all-pervasive and everywhere.  It seems impossible sometimes to get out of its clutches.  You can run away but the problem which society has with alcoholism, the lack of compassion, BS treatment and ignorance is everywhere.  You can't escape to somewhere you will find a safe haven from this.  I've kind of reinvented myself, but I'm not sure what I've invented myself as, and so far, it doesn't add up to being a career of any kind. I've got no energy to get a job and running a business in a foreign country on an extended tourist visa is not easy.  

 

 

 

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Molly78
23 hours ago, Otter said:

I keep coming back to "alcoholism".   We're here, one way or another, as a direct consequence of this illness.  It casts a very long shadow even after you are off it and well into recovery.  It's like being a refugee but what you are escaping from is all-pervasive and everywhere.  It seems impossible sometimes to get out of its clutches.  You can run away but the problem which society has with alcoholism, the lack of compassion, BS treatment and ignorance is everywhere.  You can't escape to somewhere you will find a safe haven from this.  I've kind of reinvented myself, but I'm not sure what I've invented myself as, and so far, it doesn't add up to being a career of any kind. I've got no energy to get a job and running a business in a foreign country on an extended tourist visa is not easy.

That's so true, Otter, wrt alcoholism.  There's no safe haven, though many of us here are, at least for now, out of deep waters!

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Molly78

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5102355/Crippling-toll-new-valium-ruining-lives-MILLIONS.html

Even the Daily Wail has picked up the story of gaba & it's addictive potential.  I saw this article over someone's shoulder in a coffee shop earlier today & found it online just now.  They of course blame GPs - they really hate GPs even more than the medical profession generally.  But actually I guess it's like the prescription of painkillers, which starts in a small way forlegitimate reasons, takes off big time & eventually leads to people using heroin because it's cheaper then seeing a doc in the USA!  And Valium started out as a wonder drug for anxiety, before the potential for addiction was realised.  It takes years of use before the SE of some of these meds become apparent

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Nicnak

I saw this article.My husband was up to 3600mg oh gabbapentin for his spinal cord injury and it didn’t stop him drinking and when he came off it he had no effects

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StuckinLA
18 hours ago, Molly78 said:

They of course blame GPs - they really hate GPs even more than the medical profession generally.

Hi Moll, what are GPs? As a yank I see this and think General Practitioner but can't figure out how that would be different than the wider medical profession. Thanks!

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Molly78

GP is indeed General Practitioner.  You don't have them in the USA.  For us in the UK they are "first port of call" for whatever is wrong with you, they are the gatekeepers for the the specialists.  They have a very wide training, so if you go with abd pain they can examine & arrange basic bloods/scans to determine which organ is causing the trouble, then refer on accordingly eg gastro-enterologist if it's gut, renal if it's kidney.  I don't know how you guys know which doc to call if you have some sort of general/vague but distressing symptom - or do you all pitch up at the emergency dept?  You must end up paying a lot of money if you don't pick the right doc to begin with!

@Nicnak not everyone has problems getting off the stuff, maybe it's like Valium & opioids or - dare I say it, alcohol!  Some people can take it or leave it, some get addicted.

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On a different topic, I had my first Christmas card of the year last week.  I was abit like "FFS this starts earlier each year, I've not even thought about buying mine yet" etc.  But I had to smile when I saw who it was from - SunshinePharma-UK,  the online pharmacy I buy my baclofen from!  Been ordering online for nearly 5 years & this is the first time I've ever been sent a Christmas card.  Mind you, I'm a good customer, spent a lot of money with them.

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@Molly78 oh, ok. Yes we have some of those. There are two basic kinds of insurance here, one where you just go pick the person you need straight away. The other is the cheaper and you go to a GP first and they do the same gatekeeping it sounds like your GPs do. But yes, most of us just set up camp in the emergency waiting room :D 

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Oh and thanks for reminding me, I need to pick up Christmas cards! Crikey I'm late with that.

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Otter

Xmas. bah...  Must do something this year. Wife is laid up in bed recovering. My rash has cleared up, at last. It's pouring with rain.

I read the article about Gaba. I had no idea people were taking it at all. I'd  never heard of it outside the al meds forums.  I think it would be nice to get a breakthrough. I'm finding everything a bit bleak to be honest.  What with politics and whatnot, no one in our family talking to us...

Our next but one neighbour stole my trash bin from the road on Thursday.  He dumbed my rubbish on the ground and put the bin in his garden.  I spoke to him and he patronised me, patting me on the shoulder and saying it was his bin. What a wind-up.  I then told him he was lying etc and my wife came out but he wouldn't give back the bin and called the police who came along and left after I told them he'd stolen the thing.   I've come to a point, now, that I don't mince my words.  He's taken in some of the right of way as well so I just kept saying he was a thief and a liar, so I guess it got through to him.  Of course, I can't "prove" it's mine since I didn't write my name on it.  He's built a small wooden shack on some agricultural land and has now moved in.  Looks like he's left the wife and kids and is out of a job. I wouldn't say he's a poor bastard because he drives a Mercedez.  

 

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