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    • Felina
      That's fantastic, @Alcofree! Congrats on your newfound freedom! 
    • Alcofree
      Hello all! I'd like to thank all of you who helped me during my struggles! To cut a very long story short: I managed to get Naltrexone on prescription and it worked really well for me. And I had EMDR for my PTSD and ... haven't craved booze ever since. I've believed the theory that there is always a trauma ( big, small, recent, from childhood etc) as a root of any addiction (literally any- OCD, booze, fags, food etc.) So if anyone is still really struggling- look into getting EMDR. I swear by it!  Good luck and warm wishes. 
    • Felina
      Hi @stillhoping - I agree with Otter, if your SEs are tough you might want to either stay at the same dosage until they subside, or drop down just a bit. That said, when I was titrating up on baclofen I found that some SEs hit me at certain doses and then went away when I bumped up. Mine were all over the place with crazy dreams, periods of euphoria (I wish I still had that one!), nausea, dizziness, somnolence etc. 
    • Otter
      I am no doctor but the response to that according to the Prescribing Guidelines put out by Dr de Beaurepaire is that if you are uncomfortable with the side effects then taper back to where you felt comfortable and stay at that dose for longer before increasing the dose again and just keep doing that until you are able to take the higher dose.     The same  goes for the tiredness. Somnolence is an SE so you might want to reduce even further.   The agitation at night may be because the baclofen has worn off. You need to take evenly divided doses through the day and even through the night.     
    • stillhoping
      Hi everyone, hope you are doing well.  I have a question about some of the Se's with baclofen.  I am now up to 110 mg/day, but am really tired in the morning and hyper before I go to bed.  In general, I have very little energy during the dy.  Am I taking too much?  It does 't seem like the SE's are a whole lot different than when I was at 90 mg/day - do I just need to give myself longer to adjust to the new dosage?  Seems to take me about 2 weeks before I adjust,   
    • StuckinLA
      man I'm so sorry for your struggles, and at such a young age. it's good you caught this f**king sickness early, but also that terrible anyone has to fight so long, you know? I've never tried naltrexone, so I can't offer any help there. I wonder about cravings, also, like what do we mean when we say craving? I was recently sober 3 years, and I don't know how I did it, I just did it, and then suddenly I went out and got a drink. From there, well, it's like inviting the devil back into the house. what had long settled into a kinda flat depression has now again become a struggle, a daily, f**king hourly struggle, and on a Sunday I'm drinking a beer an hour for no other reason than.. than... you know how it is, there's no reason for it. All I can say is hold tight, hold on for as long as you can and life is maybe less exciting and flatter and grayer without booze but it is, can be, better. There's not much to look forward to but look around and think about everything around you in the moment, and that can smell sweeter than any stupid future we can imagine. sorry, I wouldn't be so vague and maudlin if I hadn't also been drinking today.
    • Otter
      I've taken baclofen as has my wife.  She found it started to give a good result at about 80 mg per day.  Initially she was drinking about a litre of vodka a day starting at 7 am but when the baclofen kicked in she was able to stop completely.  We got into problems with it when I suggested she go up to 270mg a day in three divided doses as per Ameisen's regime and that caused her serious side effects.  I can't remember what they were but it made her not want to take it at all, which led to a catastrophic relaps, hosptial etc etc.  A total meltdown.   Just go easy with it. After several years she added Acamprosate/Campral and that has had an even more marked effect because she has no relapses and doesn't have any other psychological issues at all.   The main side effect we both noticed was somnolence.  At night my breathing would slow to the point that I felt I would stop breating. It's a muscle relaxant after all. It's scary but eventualy you do breathe. It also affected my thinking in that I would pause in conversation a lot which I think made people think I had been drinking. I appeared drugged or drunk, which is not great if you are working with the public.  lol We are ten years on now and it is a game changer.  You have to embrace it and take the good with the bad and keep fighting. It's not a drug to be sneezed at.   I've come to respect it because its as though you are fighting with it to get what you want and it fights you back.  At the time it was scary but now I can take a couple of pills when I get a bit stressed and it has no side effects at all.  My wife has gone down to 20 mg at night and in the morning.  I don't think she would relapse if she didn't take it but why tempt fate.  We went to Burns night and we were the only people who were stone cold sober at the end.
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