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    Hello all! I'd like to thank all of you who helped me during my struggles! To cut a very long story short: I managed to get Naltrexone on prescription and it worked really well for me. And I had EMDR for my PTSD and ... haven't craved booze ever since. I've believed the theory that there is always a trauma ( big, small, recent, from childhood etc) as a root of any addiction (literally any- OCD, booze, fags, food etc.) So if anyone is still really struggling- look into getting EMDR. I swear by it! Good luck and warm wishes.
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    I've taken baclofen as has my wife. She found it started to give a good result at about 80 mg per day. Initially she was drinking about a litre of vodka a day starting at 7 am but when the baclofen kicked in she was able to stop completely. We got into problems with it when I suggested she go up to 270mg a day in three divided doses as per Ameisen's regime and that caused her serious side effects. I can't remember what they were but it made her not want to take it at all, which led to a catastrophic relaps, hosptial etc etc. A total meltdown. Just go easy with it. After several years she added Acamprosate/Campral and that has had an even more marked effect because she has no relapses and doesn't have any other psychological issues at all. The main side effect we both noticed was somnolence. At night my breathing would slow to the point that I felt I would stop breating. It's a muscle relaxant after all. It's scary but eventualy you do breathe. It also affected my thinking in that I would pause in conversation a lot which I think made people think I had been drinking. I appeared drugged or drunk, which is not great if you are working with the public. lol We are ten years on now and it is a game changer. You have to embrace it and take the good with the bad and keep fighting. It's not a drug to be sneezed at. I've come to respect it because its as though you are fighting with it to get what you want and it fights you back. At the time it was scary but now I can take a couple of pills when I get a bit stressed and it has no side effects at all. My wife has gone down to 20 mg at night and in the morning. I don't think she would relapse if she didn't take it but why tempt fate. We went to Burns night and we were the only people who were stone cold sober at the end.
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    I'm 36 hours in and I'm feeling pretty strange already! But I've given myself some time out and I'm feeling kind of like I'm going through something big here! The start of an interesting journey. Thanks so much for your support!
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    Hi, I saw my GP this morning and he looked at the thesis I'd put together on treating Alcohol dependence with Baclofen and gave me a script straight away! So pleased!!!! I've started treatment already, Thanks so much for your advice and info Felina!
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    Hi everyone, I was very happy to find this site, a wonderful doctor, and information about baclofen. I have tried rehab, detox, AA, coucelors and psychologists and nothing has helped. For the first time. I spoke with a very knowledgeable doctor that treated me with no judgement, no biases and no prejudice. Unfortunately, I do have to go out of province to receive this treatment and it is a considerable fee, but I haven't given up yet. I am a 55 year old female, was successful in school and in most of my career, until the last few years when my drinking kept me from being able to hold down a job on a regular basis. When I spoke with my doctor through a telemedicine app on my iphone, I was at a point of desperation and a lot of suicidal thoughts. I told her that I was giving myself a year, and if I couldn't find something that worked, either alcohol would kill me or I would kill myself. She said "why would you only give yourself a year - you deserve to give yourself as long as it takes". Well, I liked her right from there. I'm looking forward to meeting other people here and wish everyone the best.
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    Gut health is the key to total wellness, ever wondered why we often say i have a gut feeling? eh...that's cause the gut is like a second brain connected to the brain thats why whenever it is out of order it signals that to the brain
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    Hi StuckinLA. I'm still alive. Indifferent to alcohol at 320mg since about this time last year. Unfortunately, I'm one of those they speak about in AA as having "grave emotional and mental disorders" lol and I continued screwing up my life and harming people around me sans alcohol. I had really used baclofen as a bandaid in many ways. It short-circuits the disease of alcoholism, but it does fuck-all for the self-loathing, and for me, really nasty hateful person that I have been my entire life - full of pain, fear, and resentment. At this point I'm working on healing that.
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    Thank you for the feedback. I'm COMT slow (too much dopamine. hyper-focused and stressed out), so wellbutrin is a poor choice for me. Thanks again Ian
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    I’ve had good success with Wellbutrin.
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    man I'm so sorry for your struggles, and at such a young age. it's good you caught this f**king sickness early, but also that terrible anyone has to fight so long, you know? I've never tried naltrexone, so I can't offer any help there. I wonder about cravings, also, like what do we mean when we say craving? I was recently sober 3 years, and I don't know how I did it, I just did it, and then suddenly I went out and got a drink. From there, well, it's like inviting the devil back into the house. what had long settled into a kinda flat depression has now again become a struggle, a daily, f**king hourly struggle, and on a Sunday I'm drinking a beer an hour for no other reason than.. than... you know how it is, there's no reason for it. All I can say is hold tight, hold on for as long as you can and life is maybe less exciting and flatter and grayer without booze but it is, can be, better. There's not much to look forward to but look around and think about everything around you in the moment, and that can smell sweeter than any stupid future we can imagine. sorry, I wouldn't be so vague and maudlin if I hadn't also been drinking today.
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    Hi @Discodez, The side effects from taking too much baclofen can range from nausea, dizziness, severe anxiety, somnolence, and vision disturbances to much more severe ones. If you read @terryk's baclofen story here, he presented a pretty harrowing account: "Post "switch," my indifference has been effortless. My titration, however, was *definitely* not. I had very, very severe side-effects and wound up restrained in the ER and hospitalized for 5 days when I tried to increase my dose too high, too soon, and started drinking *A LOT.* Increasing 20mg/week was too rapid for me and I settled closer to 10mg/week, and even then, day 2 after the increase was always a doozy, with intense hallucinations and shocks to my hands/fingers. All in all, it took 7 months of slow, steady titration for me to find indifference @280mg/day." I've been on these forums (and on baclofen) for almost 10 years. The problem with going up in dosage too fast, as you can see in Terry's account above, is that people often don't get hit with the full force of the side effects for a couple of days after an increase. So people who titrate up extremely fast can get hit with a tidal wave of horrible effects that can completely derail their experience. I can't emphasize enough that slow, steady titration will give you the best chance of success. I personally upped my dose by 20 mgs/week, although French doctors recommend something around 10 mgs every 4 days. I would always get hit with a wave of nausea and dizziness a couple of days afterwards. I can't tell you how long you should expect to be on it. Some people taper off after a couple of years. I've been on baclofen for many years and am afraid to taper down too much. I'm currently taking 100 mgs/day. I've never heard of baclofen being used to treat nerve pain. I know that a lot of people combine baclofen with Gabapentin, which is another GABA-B agonist and does help with nerve pain. Besides titrating up too fast, the other big issue that can derail people on baclofen is that they try to continue drinking "moderately" and end up "drinking through their switch." If you are able to abstain, your titration up will be much, much easier. Baclofen pairs very well with antabuse. Here is an older (but still relevant) collection of success stories from our sister forum. There is a lot of great wisdom in those posts.
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    Thanks so much Felina!!! I'm soooooo glad I didn't waste more time & lots of $$$ trying to order it online to arrive in Canada before he returns to NZ. I have a lot of confidence in my GP so I've already been arming myself up in preparation for the appt on the 7th,, from reading "The End of my Addiction" so thanks for the advice on doing that too. I also just did 36 hours without any wine attempting to use the meds that I have on hand and that have been recommended by multiple Drs, Benzos, clonidine & bupropion, and spent this morning in tears because of an unshakable sense of overwhelming sadness & frustration. Noone on the closed IGNTD facebook "recovery" group that I'm paying for liked or commented on my reaching out from yesterday, although from the course material that's how I first heard about Baclofen, in the "medication primer". It feels like I've been hitting my head against a brick wall for years while being totally driven and motivated to help others, and myself. Over the last 12 months its been feeling like I'm lying on the floor in undeniable pain, but because I'm drinking, I'm being treated like a criminal & am being kicked by many of the people I thought loved me and wanted to help me. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your reply. "The End of my Addiction" and this new hope feels like a lifeline! Again thanks for your advice!!!!
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    Hi @Marnie Hart, Regarding bringing baclofen from Vancouver without a script: I think your friend will have a hard time since baclofen requires a prescription in Canada. I was unfamiliar with New Zealand's laws regarding ordering from online pharmacies, so I did a little digging. At least from what I saw here, it sounds like it could also be challenging to order it online without a prescription. I would suggest putting together all of the research you can on baclofen - the book The End of My Addiction, the research from this website etc. and study it well. Take it with you to your doctor appointment on the 7th. That was how I got my provider to prescribe to me, even though she had never heard of the treatment. Knowledge is power! Another suggestion would be to reach out to Dr. Amanda Stafford at baclofentreatment.com. She put out a call here for any prescribers in NZ and Australia to reach out if they would be willing to prescribe baclofen. I'm sure she could give you some guidance.
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    Thank you I did read a few older posts and found one you have mentioned I'm in uk and doctors rubbish basically for helping my partner such a shame as baclofen worked for him before then taken of it and cant get it now so sadly have to go down this route but lots of advice on here its fantastic thanks x
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    Bless you! Thank you! I am really hoping to be able to try a "one-two" punch on my addition with both Naltrexone and baclofen! I thank you very much for your response. I noticed that there were not many people on the site and was worried I would get no response.
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    Hi @stillhoping! So glad to hear you found a doctor who was willing to treat you, and even better that she did so without judgment. It is unfortunately rare to find doctors who even know about baclofen, let alone find one who is willing to prescribe. I can also attest that baclofen saved my life. I have been on it for nine years now, and will probably be on it for the rest of my life. Please read these success stories from people who found indifference to alcohol after taking baclofen (it's an older post but very inspirational): https://www.mywayout.org/community/medication-research-and-support/43945-sweet-success-baclofen.html. I was just reading this thread earlier today, before I read your post. Please keep us posted on your progress!
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    Hi @stillhoping and welcome! Congratulations on finding a doc and Baclofen. Baclofen saved my life. I had tried everything without success before Bac. Good luck!
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    Baclofen is used to treat muscle spasm. It loosens off the spasm so it's more likely that if you get stiffness in your leg at night, it's because the baclofen is wearing off. That's my guess. I find I tense up from stress a lot and that baclofen eases it off.
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    Hi @soulfine99, I take both baclofen and gabapentin. I am currently on 100 mg baclofen and 400 mg gabapentin per day, with zero side effects. I was previously on a much higher dose of baclofen, but have tapered down over the years. The baclofen keeps the alcohol cravings at bay, and the gabapentin helps me to stay asleep throughout the night (I used to have horrible early morning insomnia). I have zero side effects from the combo, and have never had any problems with it. I think I added the gabapentin around 8 months ago. The baclofen is prescribed by a doctor, but I ordered the gabapentin online to escape the headache of trying to negotiate it with the same doctor.
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    Hi MJM Yes, our lives are good. We've had some difficult times but who hasn't. Our life now is entirely due to baclofen. It's unlikely my wife would be alive without it. Life was unimaginably bad without baclofen. It treated/cured her. Without that, nothing else was possible. Before my wife began treatment with baclofen we were under supervision by the social services for several years because of her long-standing alcoholism, previous marriage breakdown and loss of her children from that marriage, and we were eventually taken to court to have our son taken away from us as well. That didn't happen until shortly after my wife found baclofen and started her treatment. She got baclofen by telling her doctor she needed it for stroke. At the time, 2009, there were no doctors in the NHS prescribing baclofen for alcoholism. We were taken to court, not because my wife had done anything in relation to our son, but because of an incident where she was going through severe DTs because she had not taken her baclofen for a few days and I, therefore, had her admitted to hospital. While in hospital, she went into a kind of manic, hallucinatory state and grabbed hold of a nurse which resulted in the police being called and, instead of my wife receiving treatment, she ended up in court...the court where I worked as a prosecutor. One thing led to another and that incident was reported to the social services, who then assigned a social worker to come to our house to observe my wife's behaviour. After the hospital incident, my wife was in a terrible state, going through withdrawals and totally devastated by being taken into police custody with inevitable consequences. Since I had instigated her admission to hospital, and she was suffering from having neither baclofen or alcohol for several days, she was in an extremely volatile and depressed mood. On top of it all, the social services took the position that they were going to insist that my wife and I separate and that my wife have no further involvement in my son's upbringing. They told me to organize getting my wife out of the house, or they would. Effectively, at that point, our family was finished. That was in 2010. When we got home after all of this, my wife was very upset. I had to explain the whole situation to her. By way of background, my wife had been having problems with taking baclofen from when she started taking it in the spring of 2009, because she did not like the side effects. I was trying to get her up to the dosage which I'd figured out was correct based on Dr. Ameisen's own experience and I was trying to get her to take 270 mg in a few doses a day. That was too much for her and she wasn't taking it and relapsed frequently into drinking. As a result, I got Dr Chick involved, and then a local gastroenterologist, and then started essentially forcing my wife to take small doses regularly until she stopped drinking within a few days. I took time off work to oversee this regime. Her condition at that point was so bad that she had relapsed into daily drinking of about 1.5 litres of vodka a day. She was so drunk she was like a zombie and I had to put the pills in her mouth. It was impossible if she was out with the count, difficult if she was awake but very drunk and more difficult as she sobered up because she resisted my giving her pills every few hours. When she did stop drinking completely, on the weekend, I couldn't get her to take any baclofen at all, because she hadn't been dealing with the doctors, I had, and she did not realize she was supposed to take small divided doses throughout the day. She'd been too "out of it" to understand what was going on. By the Monday, she was in a terrible state of mind because by the she was withdrawing from baclofen, as well as alcohol and she went into a total meltdown, the end result of which is that I had to have her taken off to hospital in an ambulance. There's more, I've skipped over about a week of horrors. So, there I was in a desperate situation, facing my marriage ending and with no idea of what was ahead. I remember being in our bedroom and my wife being in a rage. My only thought was to phone Phil Thomas, who is a former doctor and alcoholic who runs his own baclofen rehab business. I phoned on my mobile and handed it to my wife. She at least agreed to speak to him. After a few minutes she calmed down and then she started to laugh and joke with him. That initially calmed the situation down and, after the advice and support she got from Phil, she started taking baclofen on her own, without my forcing her. That was the first time she'd really taken the treatment seriously. She'd been on the drug for over a year but she constantly used "side effects" as a reason for not taking it, and constantly relapsed. The relapses would then make her say "see, it doesn't work". It was a viscous circle. Because of this incident, the social services sent a social worker to supervise us. They probably thought they could get the evidence they needed to split us up by having someone in our house and confirming that my wife was a full-on alcoholic. The social worker came once a week for a period of three months for a few hours at a time, to our house, to watch my wife. Instead of finding a falling down drunk, incapable of caring for her family, she found my wife was not drinking at all and was able to discuss parenting. They became good friends. After three months, the social worker wrote to us saying she was going to stop visiting because there were no problems and the social services had no further interest in us. However, the policy of social services is not to just give up. Instead, while the social worker was visiting us, the lawyers who oversee child protection filed an application with the court, called a "Childrens Panel", to have our parental rights as parents taken away. It took several months before we received a hearing date. The day of the hearing it was raining very heavily and we parked at the far end of the car park, up a bit of a hill. As we walked through the car park, my wife slipped in the rain and went down very heavily. She grabbed hold of me and I went down too, landing on her leg. The result was that she fractured her ankle. She had to have a plate inserted and was in a wheelchair for six months so at that point she actaully was incapable of looking after out son. Needless to say, the lawyers for the social services would have said her fall was due to alcohol. I defended the case against us and filed a court application to stop the whole procedure. That hearing was adjourned by a judge who was annoyed that I should have the impudence to try to delay a child hearing. After the hearing I spoke to the lawyer for the social services and realized she hadn't even seen the letter from the social services. I realized then that she had no case so I decided to just let the process come to a final hearing. As we left the court I turned to her and said "you'll never get an order against us" and turned away and walked off. What was most disturbing about this particular hearing, with that lawyer, is that she had been at the hearing when my wife broke her ankle and when we spoke, at the time, she knew about baclofen. In fact, her own mother was taking it for MS. She'd read all my submissions about baclofen treatment as well. She just had no interest in it or in whether anything I was saying was true. I decided not to pursue the court hearing and let the case go forward to a final hearing, where the Chidrens Panel was being asked to take away my and my wife's rights as parents. When I got to the final hearing, in front of a the panel of three people, the same lawyer attended and asked the social worker who attended to give evidence what she felt should happen. I knew what was coming. The social worker said that she had no concerns about my wife, because she was receiving treatment under supervision of her doctor, on baclofen, and as far as they were concerned, her treatment was working, and she was a fit to look after our son. She said they had nothing they could offer in addition to that, nor could they point to anything which had been detrimental to our son. In other words, they had no role to play in supervising us and could not criticize my wife as a parent since they had been to our house every week for three months and my wife was not drinking at all and was a devoted mother. What this meant was that they had no evidence at all. At that point, the lawyer started trying to persuade the Panel to keep us under a supervision order, which we had lived under for about 9 years or so, purely on the basis that it was "too soon" to leave us alone. One of the Panel said she agreed with the lawyer and, almost mockingly towards me, said something to the effect that "we don't usually let alcoholics off a supervision order this soon". In other words, she had no interest in the evidence and if my wife was an "alcoholic" that was good enough for her. The other two members of the Panel then proceeded to throw out the case, since there was no evidence in front of them to make any order. The lawyer was left sputtering. One Panel member said she had been there on the previous occasion when my wife broke her leg. Maybe she realized that the social services had caused my wife to fall in a slippery, rainy car park just to go to a hearing which should never have taken place, and made our lives massively worse. Had we not discovered baclofen, had it not worked, had it not been prescribed by a pre-eminent doctor and had it not been supervised by two local doctors, a GP and a gastroenterologist at the local hospital to the court, there's no chance we would have won that hearing. If we had lost, we would have lost parental rights to our son. If we had decided to leave the country, which we later did, we could not have taken our son and if we did so without permission, we would have had an arrest warrant issued. That's how serious this was to us. Without baclofen nothing we have done have would have been possible. We're now living in a beautiful house, on the Mediterranean, and my wife's two daughters, who were taken away from her when they were aged 12 and 8, are now living here too with their partners and our grandchildren.
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