Jump to content
The End of my Addiction

Hi all, member of My Way Out


Greg
 Share

Recommended Posts

Hi everyone,

I have been a member of the My Way Out site for a number of years now, and decided to join this site since hearing about it.  To summarise, I am a 49 year old single male who lives in Australia and who has had a problem with alcohol for about 28 years.  In 2010 I managed to start 19 months of being alcohol-free, but I won't say "sober" because I was using cannabis as an alcohol substitute.  I had tried so many other treatments and was so desperate that I finally turned to pot as a last-ditch attempt to become alcohol free.  Unfortunately I have had quite a few relapses since that alcohol free period, and so I am still searching for my way of becoming permanently free of alcohol.  My peak alcohol abuse was 21 standard drinks every night for 2-3 years, and 18 standard drinks a night was common for many more years.  I am currently seeing an addiction specialist who believes in the use of diazepam/Valium on a long-term basis in very difficult cases of alcohol dependence, and despite my reservations about benzodiazepines (in part due to being dependent on alprazolam/Xanax for several years), I am considering this Valium treatment with the eventual goal of reducing and hopefully eliminating my dose.  I have also tried Antabuse, naltrexone (non-Sinclair), acamprosate/Campral, numerous antidepressants of nearly all classes, Alcoholics Anonymous, psychiatrists, psychologists, counselling, CBT (cognitive behaviour therapy), and numerous (60-70) detoxes.  Have also tried baclofen at low and medium doses, but not (yet) high dose.  Anyway that's enough about me, I wish everyone here all the best and hope we can all find a way of controlling or ceasing our drinking.  Greg.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Welcome, Greg.

I hope you are going to give baclofen another try?  You  seem to have tried everything else, & benzodiazepines sound very dodgy to me for use in anyone who has addiction problems.

But if you decide to go that way, do come back & tell us about it!

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

@Greg Welcome to the forum!  I would also recommend giving Baclofen and/or TSM (Naltrexone) a try.  If I was to do it all again, I would probably try both at the same time.  I did reach indifference on HDB.  Don't  give up the fight!  I couldn't even go one day AF when I started on Baclofen.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

welcome here, Greg.  I've tried many of the methods you have, to no avail.  We'll keep fighting the fight though, eh? Keep an open mind! Even where you don't think an open mind is welcome, keep an open mind! We'll get there, we will! 

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I too have come over from My Way Out and seriously considering Baclofen. I actually just made an appointment to get more info, etc.  I've been a 6 pack / night guy with several 100 + day quits since 2012, but I keep relapsing.  Anyway, ready to try something new.  

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/21/2016 at 6:46 AM, Reggie said:

Way to go fin 

there are other ways thade MWO count days and appear contrite at the roll call is BS 

you don't have to  relapse all the time you need to stop thinking you are a hopeless alcoholic as MWO newbie nest defines you you are not !

think new 

you are in a good place you have decided the old method doesn't work .

good for you stick close !

I wish you well

 

http://elitedaily.com/life/real-reason-keep-enemies-closer-friends/913742/

loudon on somes it up 

Thanks for the welcome.  I actually started that Roll Call over on the MWO site. It's been helpful for me, but I know what you mean...if you're really going to give up AL, what's the point of counting days?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the welcome.  I actually started that Roll Call over on the MWO site. It's been helpful for me, but I know what you mean...if you're really going to give up AL, what's the point of counting days?  That said, I'm 5 days in and feeling strong again.

Excuse the re-post.  I'm trying to familiarize myself with this forum's posting behaviors. 

 

Edited by Fin
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Welcome Fin. very best of luck with it.  It's definitely not easy, but I am sure it can be done.

Thanks everyone also for welcoming me here.  I personally doubt that long-term benzodiazepines will stop me craving alcohol, at least at the doses that the doctors are allowed to prescribe.  15-20 mg of Valium (as the specialist suggested) may work for a while, but what if tolerance sets in?  Also what if the doctor retires and suddenly nobody else will prescribe me the Valium?  Using higher doses of benzos could maybe control alcohol cravings more but there would then be a higher level of benzo dependence.  Yes I'm doubtful about this.

What I have been thinking of is trying baclofen and gabapentin together, since both drugs have reported anti-addiction effects and they could boost each other.  Using baclofen alone can be problematic because if you need a dose above 80 mg/day or so you would either have to find a very open-minded doctor or go to several doctors (some people also buy it online but I can't officially recommend that on a forum like this).  Maybe adding gabapentin to baclofen will lower the required dose of baclofen.

Anyway I am now on Antabuse again and have detoxed so no alcohol for now anyway, and hopefully none in the future.  The cravings can be agonizing at times for me though, it's like two sides of me fighting each other over whether to drink or drug.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Best of luck to you.  Some here have been successful with that combination.  I found Gabapentin too sedating with Baclofen.  My doc only goes to 120mg of Bac, but knows what my actual daily dosage is (much higher) and she knows how I get it :) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, I will take it slowly with the baclofen+gabapentin, in case of any severe sedation.  I have to drive each day so cannot risk being too bombed out.  If any success I will let others here know.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Greg I remember you from there old board. You tried everything like myself. Ive had lots of experience with benzos. I'm not gonna granny you as I sure you know the down sides but what ever works for you.

 

Suppose you just have to keep motoring on and God willing you'll find what works for you.

 

Best of luck mate?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi guys, thanks for the replies.  Flyer, I've basically concluded that ordinary doses of Valium cannot stop my alcohol cravings, and other benzos have caused me too much trouble in the past (e.g. Xanax with its short half life and interdose withdrawals).  I have used cannabis at various times as an alcohol substitute but have been hoping to find something else, hence the gabapentin plus baclofen idea.  Jkm, good luck with your latest attempt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Really liked coming across this post.

I am in Australia too and have tried and done all the things you have.

Hoping the best for you and myself,looking forward to maybe conversing.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Hi @Greg, I remember you from MWO. Valium can keep people sober, sometimes. If anxiety is really bad the valium would probably be better than drinking. And a lot of people substitute cannabis.Whatever it takes, and a little weed is way healthier than liquor.

I wish it worked for me but weed gives me horrible anxiety attacks. Even on hit of a pipe. But if it works for you, man, keep it up.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...