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Ne1

Happy July everybody! I hope it's a good month for all of us...

Craving like crazy on some days. Very, very frustrating. I'm supposed to be watching my diet, possibly doing a 3-day liquid fast, cutting out sugar and simple carbs altogether, to see if it helps with my mood and energy level. But just got back from the grocery store, where Haagen Dasz and MnMs were on sale, and I bought a bunch. Shouldn't have gone hungry... *sigh* 

Dinner time here after a long day working on the porch. Still not done, but only the floor left to go. I know you've been dying for the update on my endless project. (Not.) Back is killing me and there aren't any of the good pain killers left, after Ed hurt his back. :( 

See you guys in the morning. xxoo

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Mom2JTx3

Just got back from vacation out west.  Sedona and the Grand Canyon.  We had a great time.  I'm not looking forward to going back to work on Wednesday :( 

@Ne1 I know you're not a big believer in supplements, but l-glutamate really helps, both with alcohol and carb cravings.  I use the micronized powder stuff from gnc.  They use to have flavored which was perfect, but they don't anymore. I make my own with stevia drops. 

Happy 4th everyone :) 

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Ne1

Thanks M2JT. I'd forgotten about that one. I don't 'believe' in them but I take them by the fistful. ?

Ill take some l-glut now and again before the witching hour. 

So glad you had a nice time. Glad, too, that you have a couple of days to recuperate before entering the rat race again. I always hated going from la-la-la-la-la to BAM, SOS. 

Xx

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Alice22

Been a long while since I checked in but think I've caught up with most of the threads.  It's just been really hard to post (or read or write for that matter) due, in part,  to the combo of drugs Im on.  So I started reducing the gabapentin on my own and I'm feeling a little better, I think.  Brain fog and depression are lifting a little.  I don't like to jinx things but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  

Glad to see you so many people back after that lull a while ago.  So many good writers on this forum.    

 Still AF, 9 months, which is kind of a miracle.  I'm still at 90 mgs of bac and holding there for now.  I don't have cravings or think too much about alcohol but I'm not completely indifferent.   Yesterday my neighbor brought me a bottle of wine because I watered her plants, took in her mail etc., while she was away.  It's still downstairs but I really need to get rid of it. I'm thinking about it too much.  

Like I said depression has lifted but still don't feel like doing much, no motivation.  I manage to keep the house running, tend to the kids and participate in some social activities.  It's all kind of bare minimum though. I have so many unfinished projects and piles of stuff and hobbies I can't even begin to tackle.   I don't even know where to start.  I have ADD but is was never this bad.  My biggest fear is this is as good as it's ever going to get. This is the best I'll ever feel.

Hope everyone is dong well.  Again, it was really nice to catch up. 

 

 

 

 

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empyr3al

@Alice22 we are trying to build a better society, and a model.  I'm sorry if it was way off the top and we are trying not to get banned.  I live in one of the best countries on earth that is trying to get it right.  It's hard.  Sure your husband understands we are trying to build a better world.  If we have the skills why not use them to help people.  Free press is if you choose it.  What you chose to read.

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Ne1

Forgot to take the l-glut yesterday, but had some after breakfast today. Will take it a couple more times today, even set an alarm for it. Woohoo! A long-gone member of MWO used to insist that L-glut was a miracle for many reasons, including appetite suppression and a bunch of other things that ail us. Can't remember now. Whatever. I'm basically in the mode of, if someone suggests it, and I can manage it, I'll try it. Restricting diet or (gods forbid) fasting comes and goes with the wind around here. I'm pretty sure I felt better without sugar, which I achieved more days than not for a couple of weeks. But I'm gonna have to get through the most recent binge-buying of MnMs before I start that again. Just can't say no, and I can't make myself give them or throw them away. They're my miracle food. But I suppose this diet stuff is better left for the other thread(s) I've started or contributed to...

@Alice22, so nice to see you. Thanks for checking in. Sorry you're still feeling malaise, but great that you're still abstinent. Wow!!! Congratulations! Taking Lexapro helped me, which surprised me. I'm actually getting some stuff done, though I take and use a bunch of other tools, too. I've found that Modafinil is a life-saver on those days when I don't have the energy to get out of bed, and can't concentrate to get anything done at all. It's a stimulant, though, so not for everyone. (Used for narcolepsy, among other things, and as a nootropic.) I don't think I've ever tried Piracetam. hmmm. Just read the wiki page on it and it's not longer being sold as a supplement in the US. Pretty sure you can order it, though. Anyone know of other nootropics? 

@empyr3al, I just can't get into the political stuff in here. It wearies me. Not that I begrudge others for doing it. It's just that I get enough in my own, 3D, world. And it often feels like it's howling at the moon or preaching to the choir. Plus I don't want it to get in the way of being able to reach out to help others, even if they feel very different about things politically/economically/socially/etc. than I do. My opinions are too strong and I'm too willful! It's hard enough to not want to go bashing heads in around my neighborhood. For crying out loud, I went to brunch last weekend and there was someone wearing a pistol on his belt. At a brunch table. On a Sunday morning. In a crowded restaurant. Wonder if he was worried the armageddon would strike right then and he'd throw up a table, while encouraging the rest of us to hide in the freezer, while he took down the Russkies. A la Bruce 'The Rock' Wayne. 

See what I mean? I can't think about it without wanting to ramble, meander, shout, curse, cry, bemoan, lament and RAGE. 

So the damn weather didn't cooperate over the weekend, and the porch is not quite finished. Next weekend. Then we get to start on the patio. Did I mention that despite the fact that we are pinching nickels, I've been buying art? Yep. Mostly at second-hand stores, but not all. Cannot wait to get started on the inside! 

Craving much reduced due to heretofore mentioned MnMs and a new favorite Haagen Dasz flavor. Peanut Butter Chocolate Salted Belgian something or other. Neva eva buying that again. Can't stop until the spoon reaches the cardboard and am then tempted to scrape out the remainder with a spatula. Or my tongue. 

Cheerio, peeps!

 

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empyr3al

@Ne1 wow! There is a reason we don't have hand guns here.  I think we are a different society that cares not for violence.  Although it does happen with the odd psycho.  We speak our minds but we do not act.  Its almost experimental so we can learn and accept.  I'm sorry its not that where you live.  We are a free nation without hand guns and instant responses.  We double and triple check.  Very strange country to live in with so many different people.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=government+of+canada&oq=goverment+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.7427j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8,  

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Birds.  They wake me up at 5am now daily.  Not like I have enough trouble with sleep.

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BarrelChested
On 7/4/2017 at 8:22 AM, Mom2JTx3 said:

l-glutamate really helps, both with alcohol and carb cravings.

L-glutamate does a few things for you. Allegedly. I use it after big training sessions (supposed to speed recovery -- especially important on multi-day events). It's also said to be good for leaky gut (which, as alcohol abusers -- and likely folks with non-ideal diets -- we almost assuredly have). So, the gut is "the other brain;" microbes have been shown (in peer-reviewed, legitimate science/journal articles/studies) to influence our behavior/mood/cravings/etc.  At the very worst, L-glutamine is very unlikely to do any harm.

 

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empyr3al

@BarrelChestedI have seen video of what goes on in the NHS.  Like seriously having to have fluids being drained.  I am grateful I am not at that point.

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StuckinLA

Quick flyby at 2:30am here, just now back from Spain. Tired, jetlagged, looking forward to a couple days of lounging around to decompress.

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MJM

Hi all, just a quick hello. Am very grateful for the support I got here 3 or so weeks ago when I fell off the wagon. Back to situation 'normal', which for me is no drinking, no exercise, no real happiness and smoking.

I had a run of mistakes in my work - three stories, an error in each - that just about killed me. I hate making mistakes, and thought around then that I had better go find another job. Anyway, I'm over that now. I think recovering from drinking does take away some brain power but also maybe I'm that bit more sensitive.

I am trying to get some, any exercise in place of having to go back to antidepressants, but the fact remains that my mood has been low for months...

 

 

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Ne1

Hulllooooo all. 

Eek. not many around when things aren't hopping, are there?

I'm... Okay? Fine. Sure. 

Productive then not. Sticking to a nutritional regiment, then not. Ditto the supps. Totally forgot about L-glut, again, which I need to pull out of the cabinet. I even stopped taking the collagen protein, and my hips and lower back started aching, and still forgot, because I hate having them on the counter, put them in the cupboard, and sight out of mind. Oy.

I've taken a hiatus from here, obviously, but now I think I'm gonna take a hiatus. I'm gonna run away! :) My cousin, and best friend since birth, lives in Indiana. I think I'm going to drive out to stay with her, like tomorrow. Things are both more serious, and less, than 'running away'. Geographic relocation doesn't work, as we all know. But my husband is miserable. I'm miserable. It's intolerably hot here (no less so in Indiana, probably) and, well, I want to run. I have fantasies of going cross-country and surprise-visiting @StuckinLA. (Don't worry, not going to happen.) 

I've driven across country several times and have great memories. Also memories that make me realize that I do not want to sleep in cheap motels again. Drive at night, or without a map. (At the hardware store yesterday, I was waiting and mentioned that I didn't drive our truck because the air conditioning is broken. The guy in front of me, and the family behind me, all spoke up and said they didn't even have air conditioning and that's why they were out [it was cloudy, and cooler] and I, well, I think the whole god damn world should have air conditioning.) And you know what, maybe without a map as long as my husband isn't with me, which, thank all that matters, he will not be. (He doesn't know yet. Surprise!) But those decisions are for later days. Tonight I have to decide if I'm taking the dog, and figure out what to pack. I remember, too, when that meant throwing stuff in a duffel bag, or later, a big plastic bin. It certainly didn't mean coordinating purses and shoes. (That's a joke, folks. Everything I own is black. Also a joke.)  

Hell, maybe I'll swing by Iowa City and look up my friend from college and pretend we're not almost fucking fifty. That, too, is a joke.

I really should have a thread, an unread blog, a journal (which my therapist insists will see me to wellness and bliss) where I can spew nonsense and vitriol and whatever else without way-laying an entire (non)population of people looking to connect. Where the hell are you guys? 

And oops. I did read up. I know everything is better in Canada, and in the UK (or not, whatever) and that the popular press has been subverted, and whatever. We all have burdens. They're different. I can guarantee you that no-one I've seen here has as much bull shit to put up with as (wtf is his username? hayzeus, it's been too long) BLEEP. @bleep!!! yo. Bleep's in Zimbabwe. Happily moved on for the most part, though I may prod him to post and entertain us with the latest. Maybe not. Can't be daisies and unicorns to live in Zim right now (or ever). More like Guns n Roses. ha. No, I know that's not funny. 

Peas out.

 

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erk.

Don't you hate it when people are like, "yeah, it's cold here, but it's worse in Antartica!" as if that should make you feel warm. pfffft. 

So back to the point(s) from this and the other checkin' in thread. I guess I was annoyed when Stuckla attacked the venerable NYT, as if we don't all have deep dark holes of abyss. I can't remember who you quoted, Sla, but it made me think of House of Cards and how there isn't anything or anyone who can be sanctimonious about all this stuff. Not even me. 

I need some non-political podcasts to load up for the ride. any suggestions? 

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@Ne1 the flyover states are all easy to mix up but you do know Iowa City is not on your way to Indiana, right? :D

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1 hour ago, StuckinLA said:

@Ne1 the flyover states are all easy to mix up but you do know Iowa City is not on your way to Indiana, right? :D

Wait. What? And truth to tell, there is NOTHING more boring than driving cross-country along the northern route. 

Once we stopped in the 'bread-basket' of America, and stayed at a really kitschy (unintentionally) bed and breakfast, with plastic flowers in the flower boxes and plastic ivy vines around the two twin beds (seriously) and asked where to go to eat some dinner. They sent us to a pizza-buffet, the best in town. There were canned greens, and instant mashed potatoes, and lots of other boxed then reconstituted inedible goodies. Good times. 

Arkansas, on the other hand, is one of the most underrated, beautiful states I've ever had the pleasure to drive through. And Kentucky, while beautiful, should be boycotted by all on principle simply because most of the counties are dry. Meaning, for you folks overseas, that they don't serve or sell alcohol. At all. Anywhere. It's where bourbon is made, ftr. So the irony is profound. I hate Kentucky. (No offense Kentuckians. You're okay. Your state just sucks.) I'm yammering. 

Well, the road trip was aborted anyway. I got drunk instead. Or rather, I woke up hungover instead, and with some semblance of reality looming in the murk of that miserable state. I WANT TO RUN FAR, FAR AWAY. But can't. Or shouldn't. Whatevs. My f*ck it meter only goes so high before it resets, and I'm supposed to start a job on Monday that does not lend itself to driving off into the wild blue yonder. Maybe. We'll see how much of an asshole Ed is this weekend. I'm still having romantic notions of driving off with nothing more than (well, everything) and my trusty pooch into the future. Chicago here I come! Yay for credit cards!

Plus, now that the porch is finished, I've decided to pull up the carpet in the house. (Hardwood! yay!) (Pete's going to hate it, but it will be much fun watching her slip-slide through the house.) Which meant that I had to paint the interior doors first. Which is almost done. Ed's not crazy about the idea of yanking the carpet, but frankly, he's not crazy about anything in a positive way these days so pffft. Who asked him? 

What took you to Spain, Stuck? 

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2 hours ago, Ne1 said:

What took you to Spain, Stuck? 

The group of college friends with whom I usually travel planned the trip - it had been in the works for nearly a year. One guy wanted to go to Pamplona for San Fermin (again) and run with the bulls (again). I ran in 2009, because I was drunk and didn't have a chance to think about how stupid it was, and the morning I ran was the last time a person died during the run. Happened not far from me but I didn't see it. Anyway, we went to Barcelona and a very quick (too quick) stop in Madrid and then Pamplona for too many days. But we also took a quick day trip from there to San Sebastian, which was nice. Very different experience sober. And gave up veganism for the trip because dairy is f**king unavoidable in Europe (though the girl and I had an amazing vegan dinner one night in Barcelona) and booze is pretty difficult to avoid as well. Drank *a lot* of espresso.

Celebrated 7 months AF with a slice of Guiness cake, which was delicious.

Obviously wasn't planning on losing my job when I booked the trip. So now I'm back, and thinking about trying to find work, and broke, and depressed as all hell. Still AF, and fast approaching the longest AF period in my life since 16 years old. Have never hit 8 months, and that's coming up in about 2 weeks. Though obviously I think about drinking ALL OF THE TIME. And obviously I don't have the money to drink, so there's that, though I think that only makes it more difficult.

Hope you're doing OK, @Ne1, sorry to hear about your hangover and your escape-fantasies. I feel you there, sister. I would love to run away. Far, far, far away. Alone. Or, well, actually I guess I would have to take both cats and the rabbit and not a one of the three of them would enjoy the trip.

Shout out to everybody on this thread, too. Been super quiet, I've been super quiet too though I guess.

Been writing a little for this leftist online publication that I'm helping to launch. Should be writing more, of course, both for the socialist lefties and for myself. But well, I got the newer xbox from the girl instead. Her roommate has a brand new playstation so she hadn't even plugged the thing in, and since we split the cost. Well my afternoons look a lot like video games and netflix right now. Trying to get out of bad habits but bad habits hold on tight. Funny that I actively went out and got the means for the video games instead of leaving well enough alone. At least I haven't bought any more MJ and haven't smoked since a couple days before the Spain trip.

One nice thing about not drinking is that I could actually go on the trip. Had I been drinking like I was 7 months ago there's no way I would have been able to drink enough during the flight (questioning that a little having seen the wine pours they gave the girl during the meals though :D)

Anyway guess that's about it here. Have a good one, peeps.

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Congrats on the anniversary @StuckinLA!  The girl went with you to Spain, huh?  Interesting :)  I think you should post pictures of the pets, especially the bunny.  

@Ne1 what sort of job??

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On 7/19/2017 at 1:42 PM, Ne1 said:

I need some non-political podcasts to load up for the ride. any suggestions? 

Have you listened to S-Town yet? Missing Richard Simmons? The Moth? Snap Judgment? Serial? You Must Remember This?

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Yeah I have way more activity on MWO because for days nothing happens here or I'm not getting notifications.  Geolocation does not change addiction, you will find it anywhere unless you are in a dry county which do exist.  Like you said we all know that.  Taking a trip is a wonderful idea so long as you are not drunk lol.

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17 hours ago, Ne1 said:

Well, the road trip was aborted anyway. I got drunk instead. Or rather, I woke up hungover instead, and with some semblance of reality looming in the murk of that miserable state. I WANT TO RUN FAR, FAR AWAY. But can't. Or shouldn't. Whatevs. My f*ck imeter.

Plus, now that the porch is finished, I've decided to pull up the carpet in the house. (Hardwood! yay!) (Pete's going to hate it, but it will be much fun watching her slip-slide through the house.) Which meant that I had to paint the interior doors first. Which is almost done. Ed's not crazy about the idea of yanking the carpet, but frankly, he's not crazy about anything in a positive way these days so pffft. Who asked him? 

What took you to Spain, Stuck? 

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I'm sorry you got your road trip aborted and good luck on the new job.

Carpet.  When I took it out 2 years ago during one of my stays away from my wife and helping my father there were so many staples.  Like we are talking every 6 inches I had blisters from pulling them out over like 2000sq/ft not to mention moving the furniture which my father hoards.  Hardwood is very much easier to clean but I also own a dyson which I bought on what we call "boxing day" so carpets don't bug me as much.  Not like my dads "filter queen".  But with a new puppy clean up is simpler but sometimes its invisible and catches you off guard.  Dogs in regards to them learn the slip and slides over time but its hard.  Interesting to hear the "tick tack" as they come around looking for you.

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If you are into NA, CA, AA this site would keep you occupied for hours and hours.  Its not music though.  http://www.xa-speakers.org/

Not my cup of tea for therapy but its massive.  XM/Sirius Radio also works well and had it for 3 or 4 years.  Now my phone has 4gb a month so I can stream it.  Sorry about the no A/C.  I have one room cooled with 10,000 btu so I can escape the heat.  Thankfully my truck has working A/C.

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Just a quick check in-- gave in and started taking Wellbutrin a couple of weeks ago (thank you @Ne1 your suggestion is what made me give it a try) and so far so good. 

I guess I dont check in so much because I'm becoming more engaged and busier in real life and it feels good and I feel like I'm behaving like normal person,despite the battles with depression. Also I have 2 recovery friends I talk to almost daily. This has helped me more than anything. Both are still drinking so I'm sort of the counselor. LOL. I like it.   I just  gave one friend all of my naltrexone to start the Sinclair Method and so far she is having great success!  This friend told her sister about it so her sister asked her dr about it and the dr said she prescribes it frequently and with great success to many of her patients! This is a concierge doctor in Delaware.  I couldn't believe it!  

Still AF on 90mg bac.  Also slowing reducing the gabapentin so now at 600 mg/day. I feel a lot less foggy headed.  

My husband had to have  emergency heart surgery on Wednesday.  He went for CT scan for separate issue and they found a tear in his aorta.  They would not let him leave the hospital and they did the operation the next day. More 9 hours (open heart)  It was so scary and I feel bad joking about his death and I am so grateful  hes going to be okay.  I haven't had a drink but I feel really close. Closer than ever before. There is a bottle of wine here and I feel like I just want a sip to see what  it's like.  I need to throw it out. 

I guess this wasn't so quick. 

Glad to see so many people back.

 

 

 

 

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@Felina I'll check out Richard Simmons and Remember This. Appreciate it. I'm having fun with kombucha still. I'm eagerly awaiting black tea and peppermint. Drank so much hibiscus, I'm sorta sick of it. That said, not only is it yummy, it's gorgeous. Next time I entertain I'm gonna serve it (just hibiscus tea, not kombucha) in champagne glasses with something for people who drink to add in... I have also been eating some fermented foods, though not making them. I got some AMAZING bread and tomatoes at the farmer's market last weekend, and have been eating tomato-mayo sandwiches several times a day for a week. That and sausages. Super yum. My skin, however, is freaking out, and I'm sure that if I tried an elimination diet, and actually stuck to it, I wouldn't be so uncomfortable. Maybe next week. ;) 

Stuck, glad you got to take the trip despite the financial worries of right now. (But, see, there's a reason I never have any money!) I'm so sorry that you don't have a job. I missed that somehow. 

Mom2, I'll be doing the same thing I did before I went to rehab. Intake info and approval for people to get food and financial assistance. I've been involved with this charity for years, know the director and am close friends with the assistant director. Initially I was worried that I'd have to make judgment calls about who was "worthy" to get aid. Truth is, I just say yes. I was made fully aware of the disparity between realities when a guy came in to get assistance for himself and his two kids. No other parent in the picture. He had a military pension, after 20 years of service, of $36k/yr and was disabled. He was WAY overqualified for assistance, but in this area $36k/yr won't pay rent. Ya' know? It's a small charity, I know how much everyone makes, I know where the money goes and I know what happens to it. 

I'm sequestered inside today. I have been all week, actually, because of the heat and the aforementioned skin irritation. But today, I'm actually smoking inside. (It's 100 degrees outside in the shade! no way, jose.) So today's fantasy is that Ed is going to come home from work and tell me he's moving out. For a while. A month, at least. I don't mean I want to get separated or divorced or anything that permanent. I just want space. Freedom. from resentment and anger and passive-aggressiveness. The most disappointing thing about drinking the other night is that I did it because I just didn't feel like facing him, and (if I'm being honest) it was kinda a 'f*ck you'. So needless to say, we're and I'm not in the best place. I am, however, kinda pleased with the things I'm getting done around here.

@empyr3al, I decided against starting to pull up the carpet today because of your post. I don't know that I can pull out a couple of hundred staples without help, and I don't want to leave them where Pete the Pup might get hurt. (She and I are in true love, by the way. She comes when I call her. She 'drops it' on command when I give her a treat or a bone. She heels when we walk and she doesn't jump on people anymore. Amazing. Yesterday a neighbor came over and she pulled out every single toy in her toy box and brought each one to him. Cutest thing ever. He's a cat person, though, so the cuteness was unnoticed. anywaaaaay.) How's your new pup? I'm actively avoiding anything to do with recovery right now, but will file away your recommendation of things to listen to. Appreciate it.

I started reading actual books this week to break the habit of disappearing into a screen. Picked up Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, which I've apparently never read before. Reminded me of Tiptronic_CT from MWO years ago. Remember (you old timers) his, "So long and thanks for the fish."? ha.

Now (finally) reading Infinite Jest. Not far enough in to be thoroughly absorbed, but liking it so far. 

Ciao, peeps. 

 

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@Alice22, we cross-posted. 

SO GLAD YOUR HUSBAND IS OKAY!!! Yikes. Hang in there. 

I also found it helpful (?) to talk to people when we'd just gotten out of recovery. I was the sober one. :) 

Glad you checked in. Throw out the wine. Or not. But do. xx

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It's been very quiet here, and very, very hot.   Temperatures have been over 40C.

My mother-in-law is back in Glasgow and in a long term care home who are set up to deal with end of life cases and it's near family.  

My wife is fine. This Bac and Campral combo seems to be a dream combination.  She's now on about 40 mg of bac a day and one Campral pill morning and night. Not sure the size of pill.  What's interesting is that she's less erratic in her behaviour with the campral.  Previously, she had a very annoying habit of getting het up in the morning and if I left the house, she would hurl abuse at me, which was very unnerving.  That was a daily thing and incredibly upsetting.  It made me apprehensive about whether she would relapse while I was out.  It was so routine that i did wonder if there was anything which would help and this combo seems to have done the trick because she is now not relapsing or tippling.  She did have a bad day when her mother went into coma and then another when she was flown back to the UK, but that was it.  

So...7 years into this treatment!  Still learning and still new drugs and methods being developed, little help from the medical profession, hospitals etc.  Had this combo been available back then, and if there was also proper, competent, non-judgmental medical backup.........???

 

It makes me despair that we are still where we are.  It's been like throwing pebbles into an ocean, trying to get this message heard.  

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StuckinLA
2 hours ago, Ne1 said:

Now (finally) reading Infinite Jest. Not far enough in to be thoroughly absorbed, but liking it so far. 

The first 150 is a real slog. I put it down more than once before making it past that mark. Really it's the Boston AA sections that make that whole book for me. The tennis academy is good, but the Arizona mountain sections are stupid imho.

Sorry you're still feeling the need for space and not getting it, Ne. Sending love from the other coast.

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Ne1

Just when I'm wondering what the hell is going on, something titillates. I'm enjoying it. But what gives with the "year of the..."

explain? 

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Ne1

Also, I almost quit reading because of the girl in the psych ward who just wants out. Is this book going to make me want to take an endless swim, Stuck? You know I hate depressing sh...

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Felina

I haven't read Infinite Jest. I have Brief Interviews with Hideous Men, but it drove me a bit batty trying to read it. Also, I've heard The Broom of the System is fantastic. Every time I think of DFW now I think of this Onion article, which made me laugh forever: http://www.theonion.com/article/girlfriend-stops-reading-david-foster-wallace-brea-76

 

 

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